Powerful, provocative, and raw, self-described
Punany Poets take readers on an
extraordinary erotic journey, melding poetry,
short stories, and prose to explore the
essence of black male and female sexuality.

The Punany Poets are pioneers of erotic
entertainment, creating lush literary works that
also encourage self-empowerment and safer
sex. Punany Poets' founder Jessica Holter,
whose urban classic Punany: The Hip Hop
Psalms was featured on HBO's Real Sex, has
adapted the Poets' compositions into a
groundbreaking anthology created to rouse
the senses and inspire the imagination.
Vivid, compelling poems and prose pieces deal with every facet of modern love and lust. They blend tantalizing sensual imagery
with an underlying message of urban-rooted AIDS awareness. Never preachy, always original, and guaranteed to stimulate the
individual and the couple,
Verbal Penetration is unique among poetry anthologies -- a riveting, multi-dimensional erotic
experience with heart, soul, and message.
Jessica Holter: Thank you for this opportunity to share The Punany Poets' Verbal Penetration with Bare
Back Magazine readers.

J.Pink: You are welcome. Let's get started. When it came to putting together this book, what
were some of the things that inspired you to pick the stories/poems you choose? How did you
go about picking the other contributors?

Verbal Penetration is actually the second book by The Punany Poets. The first one, Punany: The Hip
Hop Psalms which ran a total of 4000 units, was a true anthology with more than 15 contributors. It was
this book, complete with sexy photos of Eebony Brown, that won us a spot on HBO. The book is hard to
find now because it wasn't one of these digitally printed books. It was a high gloss off set masterpiece,
years ahead of its time.

A whole lot of artists and investors from the Bay Area rallied behind its production and distribution
including Dwayne Wiggins of Tony Toni Tone', Money B of Digital Underground, Yulonda Washington of
For'Play Productions, Denzil Foster, Lev Berlak of The Grill Studios and Davey D of KMEL just to name a
few. We gave "Punany" parties and sent out press releases. We even got the attention of some major
publications like The Source and Rap Pages.

With the Psalms, I really wanted to draw attention, not only to AIDS awareness, but also let people know
that Black sexuality did not have to be marketed with the raunchiness I felt rap music was putting forth at
the time. I also didn't think black women should have to hide their sexuality to be taken seriously.

When I got the opportunity to be professionally published by the notorious Zane (Sex Chronicles,
Addicted) many years had passed since my first publication. I was much more experienced as a poet and
had more than 300 pieces in my personal archive. So, I first chose from my own works, then added pieces
from my favorite contributors from Psalms, DJ Blackmon, Branden Pernell and Gary McCoy. They are all
great storytellers and DJ’s talent for rhyme is unrivalled.

I have several pen names (and personalities) that represent a different side of my sexuality in Verbal
Penetration. "Ghetto Girl Blue" is closest to my soul. She writes from a place of political anguish and
sexual recovery, helping me to cope with my own rape and childhood molestation. I owe most of my most
intense work to her. "Jane Therese", is in love with love, I created her in memory of my mother who was a
hopeless romantic hippie. T Calloway, is my lesbian voice, and J Steal is my male side. He’s the kind of
man I would want to be… smart, thinking with both heads.

I wanted Verbal Penetration to be as educational as it is entertaining. So we included sex tips, safer sex
pages and interesting trivia. People always tell me they are surprised when they read the book because it
is not just erotica. I wanted to offer a range of styles and voices, so that many ideas and attitudes could
be represented in Verbal Penetration, the way The Punany Poets do in our shows.

Since I was previously self published, I welcomed the opportunity to put some of my classic pieces like
"Daddy Sam" (a lengthy piece in which a welfare mother gives tribute to the black man, in spite of poverty)
and "The Head Doctor" (popularized by HBO's Real Sex in a single line 'I won't lie, I don't lie, I give good
Head') into international circulation through Zane and Simon & Schuster. To have my work available at the
local library and to get emails from students saying they have included The Punany Poets in their
dissertations is a blessing I am humbled by. There is even an entire dissertation about The Punany Poets
by Dr. Raquel Monroe called “Representin’ the Forbidden”.

J.Pink: Throughout the book, you define the concept of "The Punany". For those who don't
know, where did the word "Punany" come from? Why did you choose to incorporate that word
and that concept into your movement?

“Punany”, I define as an Afro-Caribbean euphemism for female genitalia. I heard the word for the first
time form a young man I met when I was a student at Howard University. He is from Jamaica. When he said
the word it sounded so sexy. As Mahogany Brown said on her interview with HBO, Punany sounds better
than “vagina” or “twat”… Hmmm, how would the Cunt Poets sound?

J.Pink: You are a leader in the erotica community, encouraging both self-empowerment and
safer sex. So as you can imagine, most people don't think about sex education when they think
about erotica. How has your approach to using erotica as an educational tool worked for you?

I am honored to be part of such a bold and innovative movement. When I started doing erotic at the
clubs in Oakland, CA, some people made fun of me. I got my feelings hurt a lot. Being on HBO’s Real Sex
and being seen as an erotic woman even caused strife in my marriage. I feel I have a calling to spread an
important message about taking control of your own sexuality. Especially right now, when AIDS is
becoming as easily obtainable for Black females as the flu.

Today, there are thousands of erotic poets all over the world doing shows that look so much like The
Punany Poets you might think you have seen our show. Imitation is the best form of flattery. If they can
add the message of safer sex to their platform, then my work in truly being done. Issues of sexual misuse
are very large parts of my mission.

When I was a child, about 9, I was called to preach. When I was molested by a deacon and raped by a
disfellowshipped Jehovah’s Witness, my plans were derailed. My pastor called me one night not long ago.
He had seen the HBO segment. He wanted to put my mind at ease. He also knew about my being
molested and raped as a child. He told me that I am still preaching.

The Punany Project is healing me. I want other people to be healed by it to. I want to teach from my own
experiences and the experiences of other. I want more women can know their own power.

J.Pink: Was the poem "Stranger Let's Talk" a true experience?

One night I thought I saw an apparition in my window. The poem came to me. It really is a wonderful
piece. The sermon part comes from my childhood pastor Newton Cary Jr. at True Vine Baptist Church.
Whenever he got to that moment of his sermon when the Holy Ghost took over, he would say, “They tell
me, the earth began to real and to rock like a drunk man, and the sun refused to shine, ‘cause the s-u-n
and the s-o-n couldn’t shine at the same time.”

Rev. Carey was speaking of the crucifixion of Christ. I always thought the vision was brilliant. When I wrote
Stranger Let’s Talk, I was still in my clubbing days. I would go to Geoffrey’s Inner circle in Oakland, and
just watch nature taking it’s course… numbers scribbled on napkins etc. I wondered, what would happen if
you got a man home, in your bed, in the mood, and found he was a heroine addict? To get him out of
your bed, you had better have Jesus on your team, or at least a gun, nearby.

J.Pink: Was the poem "Confessions of a Lipstick Lesbian" a true experience?

This poem was based on a friend’s experience. I changed a few things, but it is basically true.

J.Pink: How did you hook up with Zane?

Shameless self-promotion. My friend and music producer Femi of Oakland, CA, had run across Zane’
s website, eroticnoire.com. She said, “Girl...there is a woman doing what you do, kind of.” I went to the
site, read her bold and daring work and got in touch with her. That was before she was publishing other

Zane and I spoke on and off over the years. She gave me lots of advice and lots of encouragement.
When I found out she was publishing other writers and was interested in film, I started giving shows in DC
and inviting her. One day she invited me over for breakfast. She offered me a publishing deal as well as a
film deal with her and Suzanne de Passe. Now that the Sex Chronicles is on TV, I hope to be next in line. I
am working on “Midnight with The Head Doctor” for a Las Vegas filming right now.

J.Pink: In many people's minds, there is a thin line between erotica and pornography. Do you
agree with this statement? What is the difference between the two?

I think Erotica is material that makes you feel sexy and pornography makes you feel sexual. In the
publishing industry, sexy pictures in color are pornographic. Sexy photos in black & white are erotic. This
difference between the two is truly in the eye of the beholder. For example, people with foot fetishes,
might find photos of naked feet pornographic.

J.Pink: There are a number of erotica authors who write outside of their own sexual
experience and orientation. How do you prepare for that in what you contributed to Verbal

I find that my writing, especially in Verbal Penetration, is not nearly as erotic as some. I tend to put a
lot of social commentary in my work. I have underlining themes of unity, self-worth, black love and
personal empowerment. Perhaps, because of my sordid sexual history, I don’t let go as easily as some of
the erotic writers out there like Zane and Allison Hobbs. But I am working on it. I am working on my first
erotic novel right now. The Punany Experience is based on the poem in Verbal Penetration called “The
War Between Tops and Bottoms”. It’s about two lesbians who have an affair with a married man. He’s not
gay, just likes it in the ass.

J.Pink: You make it a point to sprinkle AIDS awareness and safer sex practices throughout
Verbal Penetration. Why are these two issues so important to you?

When I was at Howard, I used to go to a club called “Tracks” in Washington, DC. That's where I
discovered what they now call the “down low”. I suppose I really started getting HIV aware then. It was
1991. There was a whole lot of indiscriminate fucking going on and lots of brothers spending a lot of time
in jail. I saw guys from school in the club, young men with girlfriends. It was a real wake-up call.

People at my church were dying. My boss at The Washington Post was sick, telling me all about the pills
he had to take. I was getting more news on the Black man as “an endangered species” than I could
handle in my job as a Copy Aide at the paper. I am from the hood. I spent time with musicians. I knew
people were only talking about using condoms, not actually using them. If there wasn’t a rubber in the
room when a dick was hard or a pussy was wet, there wouldn’t be any midnight trips to the pharmacy.

It all added up to Black females being at risk, in my mind. When I started the Punany Project a few years
later, Black women were only 23 percent of newly reported AIDS cases. Today, we are more than 70
percent of the newly reported cases, and the rate at which black men are incarcerated is rising. You can
even buy stock in the prison system, online.

J.Pink: At what point in your life did you figure out that you love sex and being sensual? How
did that translate into The Punany Poets and Verbal Penetration?

I don’t know that I do love sex as much as I love the discussion of it. Frankly, it scares me too much
right now. When the government releases microbicides (a gel or cream that kills AIDS on contact) I’ll think
about getting some steady dick.

The most sensual material in my book was written to my marriage. I loved sex with my husband, but more
than once he brought me bacterial infections. When my doctor suggested marriage counseling, I
suggested divorce. I do love intimacy, but I don’t have to have sex to be intimate. Right now I am having
hard-core sex with my career and the wonderful fans and supporters of The Punany Poets and our non-
profit AFACTA.org.

J.Pink: What's next for Jessica Holter aka Ghetto Girl Blue?

The Punany Poets just got our first invitation to perform at the AVN in Las Vegas! We will be there Jan
8th through the 11th. I have created a new format for our Vegas debut, which will include adult film stars.
Additionally, I have been working closely with Vanessa Blue and plan to release some film work with her
on her online network.

The new full cast production is called The Punany Poets’ Love on Tour”. It’s so hot. The new Cast
members include LOVE the Poet of Baltimore, MD, Actress/Singer Crystal Hill and The Harlem Bombshell.
Our annual Valentine’s Day Show will be at The Production Lounge in Brooklyn. The show will be taped
and webcast world-wide.

The Punany Experience book will be finished in a couple months. I am releasing The 4th Psalms book this
year in time for Christmas Southern Comfort. The editor, Aalani-Renee is also debuting her show by the
same title in Washington, DC, on November 15th. It’s about a Preacher Kid gone bad. The Bo Ellis Show
is also running now. It’s about sexual addiction and it is hilarious. I am talking with Patti Kaplan at HBO
about revisiting The Punany Poets now that the documentary series is being revived.

Our DVD of The Verbal Penetration Show, as well as the Verbal Penetration music CD will both be
released on Valentine’s Day ’09. We are also launching a members only website with online dating
services, video streaming and games at www.PunanyPlayhouse.com. Later in the year we will release our

I am outlining a project called C.O.V. (Collective Oratory Voices) for my non- profit which will train youth in
the art of Oratory (public speaking) and give them the opportunity to perform before a live audience in
New York City.

Jessica Holter


Sunday Afternoon on Chocolate City

It is Sunday afternoon in Chocolate City.
I only came to visit,
but I drank of a bittersweet brown elixir
and came down with an allergic reaction to leaving
My endorphins got all swollen
with the spiritual notion
of Black Love

It is Sunday afternoon in Chocolate City
My lover is on bended knee beside me

We had been fighting over nothing in particular,
Perhaps just because the thing between us is so strong
We barely have room for our own selves.
So we pray.
Pray for love
Pray for strength
Each for someone else
Then for one another
Together we Pray
for the anger to go away

Ask for understanding of a love so strong it chokes
and we can only breath together
we share the air between us
always, out of breath
always, needing more

Just like that,
reaching for a tissue,
an accidental brush
we are twisted limbs of amber and mahogany
backsliding into one another
sweaty in humidity
our wetness caramelizing on the floor

It is Sunday afternoon in Chocolate City
And we forgot to say “Amen”

by Ghetto Girl Blue

Cancer of Love

I went to Ghettoville
Saw the Cancer of Love
She called my name and named my shame
In a house of ghetto thrill

My vows are wasted here
Fair is but a medieval circus
Compassion is not on the menu
The pimps can smell my fear!

The perfect purrrrrr of pussycat sap
Unleash the tigress upon me
Who could resist, the grind of a feline
Bouncing upon on his lap?

Before I could think, wallet in my hand
Master charge me baby, while I text my wife
“Hi babe, playing racketball at the club
be an hour at most”, the lies began

Don’t know how one hour became four
Duty shredded by her claws
If I am a trick, trick me again!
The whore understands the wife’s man

I come with cash for the dirtiest dancer
And still there is bread on the table
For, I am a man, not addicted to love
I am addicted to her cancer

This much I know is true
I wise man knows, he knows nothing at all
And even when your pimpin’ your hardest
Somebody is pimpin’ you

by Jessica Holter
writing as J Steal

Bytchass Man

I didn’t become a lesbian
When I started making love to a woman
I became a lesbian
When I married a Bytchass man

Like a perfect dyke
Blocking the flood of his drag
With a housewives’ silent tongue
I put myself in syke

I didn’t become a lesbian
When I started making love to a woman
I became a lesbian
When I married a Bytchass man

It is just what I deserve, some utter
For marrying a man who
Has no respect for the Lord
One who does not love his mother

That’s what I get, some surmise
For loving a man whose manhood is measured
by the velocity of his thrust
and his friggin’ dique size

By Jessica Holter

Speak the Unspeakable

Don’t let them put you on the wall.
On the wall you are for target practice.

They hate you because they do not understand you.
They hate you because they need you.
They don’t know they hate you.

They hate you because they do not want to need you.

You are a flower blooming into something
they can never be.

You are the giver of life.
You are the closest thing to God...
any of them will ever see.
They want to still your glory.
They want to fill your mouth with themselves
to silence your wisdom
They want to have your Godliness.
To become as God’s themselves
by overpowering you.
by putting you on the wall
Find your honor woman!

You must not give your power away.
Your power is in your virtue, evil can not possess it.
One can not possess what one can not comprehend.

You are a chameleon, changing with the moon, the seasons and time. Your mystery is not known to
anyone. You history is not man’s to tell.

What a magnificent and glorious creature your are!
When you remember that you are.

Don’t let them put you on the wall.
On the wall you are for target practice.

Don’t let them put you in a ditch.
Your power has elevated you, too high
to survive trench warfare.
A woman has no business down there
where men sleep and slop

Speak the unspeakable, if you dare,
Say it. “I am God”
Mean it
Show it
Hold it
like a quarter between your knees

Find your honor woman!
Make them bow to your honor.

Find your virtue woman!
Make them kiss your feet

you will have fathers
for your children again.

by Jessica Holter
AKA Ghetto Girl Blue
The Interview
Interviewed by J.Pink © November 2008
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